You might notice that the pix at the very beginning of this blog are a painting of “roasting chiles” in Hatch. Click on one of those, maybe the one on the right to see a full size version.

I filled my freezer with two bags I got and had roasted at Albertsons back in, would it have been September?

John

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An honest attempt to give credit to anyone or anysite that folks access and refer to is what’s being requested. And the only people that there is an actual expectation to really get it right are the grad students and faculty. We (I am doc student and faculty) must know how to do this for our research priorities.

And yes, I eat chiles every day.

~julz

Sallie,
Yes, one always wonders if there’s a file on oneself, for any number of things….of course none of them deserving of a file,=^), but that doesn’t stop someone somewhere from opening one. By now there’s probably a LOT more information being bought and sold about us from various data banks that have been out collecting online, and in every data base they can buy into, and these businesses are probably doing a more thorough job than the gov spys!!

I used to think about packing up and heading for the hills, and then one day, I realized there weren’t any hills left, the world was flat, to quote Mr. Friedman’s book of that title. Now watch, I won’t get a point for that citation but it’s more fun than Freedman, Thomas L, “The World is Flat” Farrar Straus Giroux, NY, 2006. Which also probably isn’t worth any points.

Yeah, that’s the thing about technology, is so hard to predict all the ramifications of it’s use. Keeping track of stuff is going to be important, though our personal location may be a lot less interesting than where we actually are in cyberspace at the moment. Even keeping track of all that we ourselves our doing in cyberspace at ANY moment is going to be tricky…take our wondrous fearless leader Julz….how the hey does she have any idea where she actually is at any moment? She’s got stuff going so many places at the same time, I would imagine one can get very lost as to where ONE IS…

John

LOL

If I have to have a chip, then yes, I want to choose. I don’t want
someone passing a law that says: this one. I want at least the
illusion of free choice. If I really want to pack up and head for
the hills, any hills, and hide out from the technocrats, I want the
choice. Ok, yeah, realistically, the gov’t can already find out
more about me and my darkside than I want them to know. (Heck,
there’s probably a very slim file with my name on it at the FBI. I
was friends with card carrying members of the Students for a
Democratic Society back in the late 60’s …. my kids just shake
their heads and figure mom is hallucinating again … LOL) Or
possibly than I remember …. But … I want the choice. I do see
problems with anyone being able to find me. That includes people
who may have agendas including nasty behavior I’m not necessarily
prepared to cope with. Of course, paranoiacally speaking, those
people can always find you ……..

I’m an early adapter, but I have limits. Chip sets like shadow
runner with built in defenses, firewalls, black ice, etc …
fantasy, but again, the illusion of security inside your own head
and expensive, so not for everyone. I think it’s the “everyone”
aspect that bothers me the most.

I sooooooooo do not want to think about Korea. But, you’re probably
right. And according to the RFID site I was looking at, in Mexico
they think it’s great. They’re big wigs regard being able to be
located and tracked 24/7 as a privilege. So we chip politicians and
track them 24/7. ROFL.

Wait, aren’t we supposed to be having this debate at the blog?????
LOL.

thanks for the feedback.

sallie

I’m kind of technology neutral, as it’s beyond me to posit a state of existence that is so wonderful that people won’t be messing with it no matter what wisdom is out there about things not to do. Since we will be messing around, I vote for doing a good job of it, paying attention to bad situations that develop and either sending a counter measure out, or route around the trouble areas.

In other words proscribing stuff generally won’t work. And maybe isn’t a good idea, because everything is grist for the mill and it’s all about what spin, what conditions, what uses we put on that ole grist. I don’t have a Hee Haw quote, which is awesome by the way, but I could run out one of the parables, which goes something like this. The wheat is growing along with the chaff. If you get rid of the chaff, then you also mess up the wheat. So…got to be clever about it.

Chip in my head? I could imagine some good net connection things. That neuro implant thing has been like catnip to scifi writers, so many stories about what it would be like, features etc. I could also imagine a total mindF takeover by mind police deal, perhaps brought to us by North Korea. You know they want it.

If chip, then I want a choice, I want the one I want in there, the one with the features I choose…and as little as possible subconscious direction to buy certain breakfast cereals, or what kind of beer….maybe made by Apple and certainly not courtesy of National Security Inc.

As far as not messing with what mother nature provided, well, my part time mom was the TV whore, and I’m packing all kinds of weird memes running round my brain, from early age implants that will never “clear”. And if we go way back, well, what was mother nature up to anyway, where did language come from and what about it’s slick tricks of bambooZlement in the wrong person’s hands? It was ever thus, all mixed together, the good stuff, the bad stuff, and the ugly stuff.

thanks for comments.
John

If I printed it out, I’ll re-post, but the gist of the arguement is that there are a lot of people out there who will refuse even “education” chips. Especially with the threat of something one didn’t necessarily sign up for such as the pidgin story replaying periodically.

Around 1967 James Coburn did a movie called the President’s Analyst in with The Phone Company (TPC) thought it would be a good idea for everyone to have a phone chip in their heads so they could just think a number, it would dial and they could speak mind to mind to whoever they wished. Everyone would be assigned a number … biblical apocalyptic time here with the assigining of individual numbers. The opportunities for abuse were very clear to the lead character who took out the automated TPC gentleman and vetoed the idea before TPC could talk him into telling the president what a great idea it was.

Just as there was a “Big Brother” fear exploited in the movie, so too would there be a fear in many citizens that brainwashing was just a step away. Instant access to data flows both ways, and while there might not be the tech to read one’s thoughts and dreams, the tech for brainwashing does exist, and at a subliminal level with a direct feed into the brain … where is this chip wired up anyway?

The Bible Belt would go both ways, “the end times are a’comin’.” and “talk to my shotgun”. Today there is a radical right? movement against the Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) chip. Kathryn Albrecht & Liz MacIntyre (2003-2007)document the backlash on RFID initiatives across the US, although the Mexican government seems to have embraced the idea.

Would I take a chip like that? No. Nor would I council my kids to do so. There is enough misinformation and deception going on in the world I live in from TV/Internet/newspapers/people in the street. Reality is very much in question these days. Why would I give someone direct access to my head?

Albrecht, K. & MacIntyre, L., 2007. RFiD nineteen eighty-four. Downloaded 3-13-07 from http://www.spychips.com/

President’s Analyst, 1967. Producer: Stanley Rubin.