Message no. 262 [Reply of: no. 257]
Author: John Griffith
Date: Saturday, April 7, 2007 9:16pm
Sultan of Camel Peripherals (gadgets)
Oh yeah, you really grokked it this time dude!
Terrific distinction you’ve made between pedagogy, and androgogy.
I’ve been wondering how it could be that the “teaching” in higher education is basically not
based on training in pedagogy and instead it’s assumed that the expertise in content is
really all that’s needed.
And that, for k-12, the assumption was reversed, that a “teacher” was not an expert in
content, but an expert in pedagogy.
Which as a lateral thinker, seemed to cry out for some Po. Or truth be told, it seemed
absurd enough on it’s face that it didn’t need any Po.
And now you’ve gone and done your own Po by coming up with a good link that discusses
this very thing, absurdity, or what have you, in depth, and with historical referrence.
And you throw away a great line about how profs focus on a “discipline”…
Way to go!
Also like your simple revelation of the obvious, that we bring not only some sort of
consistent “learning style” to the material, but we also bring a very transient human state of
the moment, that involves radical changes in mood, energy level, acuity, stress, etc etc.
To say nothing of hormonal variations, blood pressure swings, bio rhythms of all sorts, and
environmental conditions such as quiet or noise, calm or chaos.
And then there’s this bottom line of bottom line thoughts, clearly from an earlier era when
one could speak this way, and people would buy into it… =^)
” Learning is work. Nobody likes work, but it’s gotta be done.” Devil Gadgets
Give me some time with that one, and I could probably deconstruct it too….and I’d have a
valid poke in the ribs point or two to say about it….but I don’t think one can totally get rid
of that…learning is, at least sometimes, and in some parts, work that we might not always
like to do.
John
